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Rudd and Swan had it right the first time

20/06/2008 9:09:00 AM.  | Alan Jones

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I suppose it can be said that Treasurer Wayne Swan and Prime Minister Kevin Rudd have been in some state of confusion this week over the detail of their own Budget in May and the consequences of the last Costello Budget.

Now in many ways this could be called tax reform. I should say, at the outset, that the government has now backed off and they're going to introduce amendments into the Senate on Monday to ensure the fringe benefits tax changes which come into force on July 1 won't penalise, their words, 85,000 low paid workers in the charity and not for profit sectors.

Now I'll come to that in a moment.

But can I say that I think the Treasurer, Wayne Swan, knows what he's doing here and he should be supported. In other words, it may not be that the amendments to prevent all this happening are right.

It may well be that what Wayne Swan and Kevin Rudd were trying to do is the course of action necessary.

Now as one editorial said earlier this week, you can't be backing down at the first whiff of grapeshot. What Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan have both identified is the unarguable truth: that people are getting welfare who shouldn't be getting it, and others are getting more welfare than they're entitled to.

Now speaking generally, the Howard Government half recognised this and basically said in their last Budget that from July 1 this year fringe benefits will be included for the purposes of assessing income, to determine whether people got family tax benefit A, family tax benefit B and a range of other benefits.

Now the concern is what this does to charity workers or people working for religious institutions. They can't afford a lot of money for staff, and so they make the package more attractive by, for example, paying for their petrol, providing them with a car from a sponsor, or whatever. Then the Swan Budget added salary sacrifice, where you take 10,000 dollars out of your salary and stick into superannuation for which you'll pay, when you eventually take it out, a lesser rate of tax.

Now a couple of points of principle here.

The Rudd Government is right to address what are rorts in welfare. So it's not a matter of which workers might face dramatic consequences.

The first is that taxpayers are forking out much more than they should in welfare payments, and the Prime Minister and the Treasurer have sought to wind that back.

For example, from now on everyone won't be getting the baby bonus. There's a $150,000 threshold. And that is correct. And surely if we're going to pay people welfare, all income should be included.

Now it's easy to understand that the Government is going to be bashed up by what's called the non-profit sector, where such changes will very much affect the benefits workers receive. But these are difficult decisions and as the editorial writer said, not the time to back down at the first whiff of grapeshot.

For example, there was an illustration of what this means this week. I read a story about a single income Brisbane family where the husband earned in excess of $100,000.

But because he salary sacrificed $10,000 of his wages each year towards superannuation - a move which is ultimately to his own benefit - and because he has seven children, he was able to bring down his income sufficiently to qualify for $300 a week from Centrelink under family tax benefit A.

That's not bad money.

$300 a week paid for by the taxpayer, more than someone gets in unemployment benefit, to a family already earning in excess of $100,000 a year.

So the simple question for the critics of what Wayne Swan and Kevin Rudd are trying to do, is: Should the taxpayer be supporting such a family to the tune of $300 dollars a week?

As I said, someone on the dole doesn't get that. But when they get their piddling couple of hundred dollars they have to demonstrate mutual obligation.

In other words, they've got to do something for it. And nothing remotely similar to what is handed out under family tax benefit A is ever handed out by government to working single people.

So summing up, Wayne Swan and Kevin Rudd were right the first time. They most probably should have ridden out the storm.

But on Monday they'll introduce amendments which virtually will say: Let's go back to where we were. And where we were is basically what we can't afford.

You'll never get tax reform if you jump at every shadow to protect special interests for political purposes.

The messages this week have been very mixed.

COMMENTS

Friday, 20 June 2008

Great picture Live News...Rudd looks like (acts like) Hitler!

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Friday, 20 June 2008

I recon he is showing his true side and doing his impersonation of John Inman. "You are awful; you behave Hendo or I'll thlap you, big boy" He will be heading his own float at the next Mardi Gras with a stance like that.

Posted by: True Blue Aussie, Australians Against Rudd

 

Friday, 20 June 2008

Oh come on Bolton, you are losing any touch with reality. Howard and his Nazis set up concentration camps and had the Pacific Final Solution, lied for profit and used the military for political gain. Now reading Alan's essay I can't see where your comment applies, it's just a cheap shot from a biased Racist Right-winger. The back down, here, is from Howard and Costello's mistake. I am sure that over time the Labor Government will attack welfare for the rich, they are simply being cautious.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 20 June 2008

Darling Henderson...I looked at the picture and laughed! I think in some developed societies its called humour. Read my comment again, LOOK AT THE PICTURE and perhaps, just perhaps you might realise that its Friday afternoon....and I just saw the funny side of Rudd. Its about the only thing from Rudd that does make me smile! I really didn't think it warranted the "concentration camp" ranting from you.

Posted by: Geoff (stand up comedian!) Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Friday, 20 June 2008

Alan, well done finding an example that suits your purpose, the problem is that we are talking about a broad brush and a single convenient example doesn't cut it. I agree in getting rid of welfare for the rich, and in dealing with all the tax loop holes used by rich people to avoid paying tax. I hope that Labor gets much tougher on this, but they simply realized that once again Costello messed up and callously ignored the fact that this legislation would hit middle and low income earners as well

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 20 June 2008

Hendo, Hendo, and Hendo-You are absolutely spot on old boy Labor has definite plans of getting rid of welfare for the rich. Their inept handling of the economy is going to turn many of the so called rich (Earning-single $100000.00 and double $150000.00) into not so rich or jobless. Then instead of collecting tax from these people the Government will have to be paying them welfare-very clever indeed. The evidence of the fading economy is everywhere: Employer, small business and consumer sentiment is down, job forecasts are down and even the RBA seems to be taking credit for slowing the economy- they say they think that they have succeeded.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Friday, 20 June 2008

Des, no surprise about what you have just said. Labor morons are turning everyone of us to be equal - to be equally poor to be exact! Australia are soon going to be turn into a de-facto socialist state where everyone will be on welfare given by the govt. Only then these labor idiots will be happy.

Posted by: W O, Turramurra

 

Friday, 20 June 2008

Nope, he doesn't look like Hitler - he looks like Mr Sheen!!!!!

Posted by: Happy Little Gumnut, Sydney

 

Friday, 20 June 2008

If it is a choice between raising seven kids on what is a good sum for three, or living on the dole on its own, with mutual obligation, then I think the dole is easier. I don't begrudge that which goes to making families work well. I note the stories of neglect of young children ,and do not wish them added to.

Posted by: Happy Fun Ball, Carramar/Sydney

 

Friday, 20 June 2008

It seems that the extreme racist right still hasn't come to terms with the fact that they were unceremoniously booted out of office when their Rorts for the Rich government of Greed told too many lies. You can fool some of the people all of the time, (Liberal Voters) All of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. The Libs are gone for good, you minorities are just going to have to adjust. We want all the money you stole from the poor. Don't ya love it.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 20 June 2008

Henderson...have a look at the picture and have a laugh. After all it is Friday! Then go take some blood pressure tablets and a cold shower!

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Friday, 20 June 2008

I have never stolen money from others. I paid a lot of tax. In fact the tax I paid in one year is probably worth the lifetime income of a labor moron (& I am have a mortgage!). I don't want to make it into a class war, but I have to as those who worked hard to earn a good income are often accused of stealing! Labor morons have tall puppy syndrome & will immediately threaten you if you earn a decent living. If you are this good why aren't you earning more & have to beg for welfare instead?

Posted by: W O, Turramurra

Saturday, 21 June 2008

Geoff; the picture clearly speaks for itself; KRudd is very clearly saying "Heil Whitlam" in the ALP's typical Nazi style.

Posted by: James H, United Socialist States of Australia

 

Wednesday, 02 July 2008

You can hardly squeeze more money from the real rich people in Australia except via GST. The only groups which are heavily taxed are those who working hard to earn a little bit more for their decent living with their family. We earn 160K a year (3 jobs plus overtime work), so we are a rich family. We don't have money left for any luxurous life style because the big spending is in the mortgage, education, fuel and basic grocery.

Posted by: M Hu, Lindfield

 
 

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