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Friday, 05 December 2008

Does Australia need an environmental disaster warning system?

17/08/2008 8:31:00 PM.  | 
Australia needs an early warning system to alert governments of impending environmental disasters, according to the Geological Society of Australia.

Key environmental issues facing Australia, such as drought, salinity, water contamination, water shortages, and climate change had been common knowledge among scientists for a long time, the Geological Society of Australia said.

"But there has been no real mechanism for the geoscientific community to collectively feed this early warning research back to governments,” said society president, Peter Cawood.

Australia's involvement in the development of an early warning system for tsunamis had been "a terrific initiative".

"But the same level of attention has not been given to the desperate need for an early warning system for many other environmental crises.

"As a result, we are now seeing, as just one example, very serious environmental problems such as falling water levels in the Murray River and the immediate risks to the Lower Murray Lakes being posed by acid sulphate soils."

Governments only started to take notice of issues such as the Murray-Darling Basin, when the "rivers have stopped running".

The society believes a national geoscience expert panel could serve as an independent voice to provide scientifically based warnings and recommendations many years before they hatch into full-blown environmental crises.

"It is very easy for governments to ignore the research of one expert geoscientist, but much harder for them to ignore the collective recommendations of a high-level, independent expert panel," said Professor Cawood.

COMMENTS

Sunday, 17 August 2008

The disaster alert system should be full-out and on RED all the time! We have had some normal winter rains in Melboure, but overall we are in dire straits! The Murray river is dying, the country is drying and we are losing wilderness areas, not to mention wildlife. Our ecology is far from healthy. We should be on red-alert! The things tourists would want to see are going, going, gone!

Posted by: Vivienne Ortega, Heidelberg Heights

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

If our political parties continue to listen to conjecture,not proof, in science .Then a barrage of neon lights wont make any difference.It will only drain this country fiscaly. Buying up the large properties in w nsw,as suggested by one of the Green groups and releasing their water supplies this spring will help the Lower Murray.That is if these properties have enough water allocation ,this year to flush through.I agree totaly with Proffesor Cawood.INDEPENDANT PANEL being the operative words.

Posted by: Pierce B, Vic

Monday, 18 August 2008

I just hope that purchases of such properties could be made promptly.

Posted by: Pierce B, Vic

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

Ok, so if the LAND was Bought tomorrow, what will it achieve? By buying BACK water now, we have impacted on production of farms already. There is NO water to actually hand back. Apart from the cotton and rice levies? Which really dont need to be put back esp. in cottons poisnous state. Freeing water from being taken is achieved, so no extra water will materialise.Foods gettin dearer again! Coles/woolies get our fuel, now they'll buy the farms the Govt will sell off. We're screwed.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

Monday, 18 August 2008

Its been know for alot of years that some of those large places higher up have caused an enviromental problem along the Darling Nick.Freeing them up would be of help quite a bit and for a long long time to come.

Posted by: Pierce B, Vic

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

An Article in the OZ has someone talking about a pipeline from a desal plant to the murray via Snowy Mt Scheme? I dont think those particular farmers are aware the RIVER starts up here in QLD. Perhaps we dont matter?Good Idea lads, wrong place to put it. I wonder how much desal the OCEAN can handle before it suffers too...thats apart from the abuse it already cops. We need to stop gobal Logging asap.Replant forest and create the conditions for precipitation again. El no treeo is killing us here.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

Lol Nick, El no treeo, love it. Totally true , trees attract rain. Love to see good humour, mixed with fact, rather than sniping at others opinions. Great post.

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

For at least twenty years now people in Australia have been screaming about Greenhouse Gases causing Global Warming and Leading to Climate Change. Even today we have the Greedisgoodites paying immoral experts to counter those warnings. A warning system would just be ignored. What we need is laws to allow the profits of companies and shareholders and individuals to be seized if their activities turn out to be harmful. Limited Liability should be removed for environmental damage.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Monday, 18 August 2008

As recent as last night, a balanced debate was aired on TV with the opinion of David Evans (http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Evans-CO2DoesNotCauseGW.pdf) being discussed against Rudd's entranched position. With data showing that global warming ceased 6 years ago and that there is NOT a proven link between global warming and carbon emissions, the least we need is an intelligent debate. We won't get that from Rudd and nil chance of getting it from Henderson

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Monday, 18 August 2008

Bloto Bolton. Your concept of a balance debate is a debate that suits your Gredisgoodite purpose. Of course you oppose anything that stops your short term profit philosophy and your paid for experts will always support you. Remember, if scientist were moral creatures we would never have had nuclear weapons, DDT, Organochlorines and a host of scientist created disasters. Even Ostriches don't really bury their heads in the sand like you lot do. I thought you were ignoring me, another Bloto lie.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Monday, 18 August 2008

If Henderson wre to actually read my comment he would (1) see that it wasn't addressed to him, and (2) realise that the comment I posted simply suggested a broad debate. He missed all that and went into his usual verbal garbage (because the opinion expressed by Evans does not fit Henderson's deluded view of everything). It might be worth him reading it all again?

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Monday, 18 August 2008

Well Bloto, if you are not addressing your silly comments at me why do you use the reply button? DUH! And you are not trying to broaden the topic, you are trying to change the subject, maybe you need a new monocle.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

i dont think there is any water out west nsw, anyway what water there is the cotton industry has poisoned it. alot of the ground out there is salt pans. so many people are dying of or have died of cancer. A warning system?? the warning system has been screaming out for decades but no one has been listening. now all of a sudden they want one. i agree with Graeme seize their profits. stop them before it gets to that point would be better

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

Der Muppet this may surprise you but the answer to every problem is not to tax/fine/penalise every person that has more mony than you. There needs to be co-operation between all the parties to get these problems fixed. Nick is right there must be a halt to tree clearing particularly up in QLD but a desal pipeline from NSW coast to the snowy may put some water back into the system which would be handy for South Australia. Cost would be the big obstacle. Big Tax Der Muppet?

Posted by: Mark Sinclair, Maryland

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

lots of trees will be cleared marky mark, lets hope they replant as they go. how many years is this going to take? they need to come up with some sort of solution to stop companies from harming the environment.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

Geoff, some only see a "balanced debate" as one sided information from one point of view. As i said, I almost fainted when I saw this on 60 minutes, the OPPOSING view, from a climate change SCIENTIST, not an economist or the likes of Al Gore. Will wonders never cease ! He stated there is no evidence that carbon emissions cause global warming, hence the last global warming reffered to in Denmark, BEFORE Industrialisation. Great to get ALL sides of an issue, thats called BALANCED DEBATE.

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

I take from your post GH that you dont believe anything scientists have to say then ? If this is so why are you agreeing with EFT's or would you rather believe the likes of Al Gore or an economist re: climate change ? I was lead to believe it was scientists advise Gore and the economists have been listening to.Why then cant the opposing Scientists have their views aired in the media.Its called BALANCED DEBATE. Please dont tell me you believe Mr Rudd because he is PM.Even he admits he's no expert

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

Slowe, please don't try put my views forward in your own words because your inherent dishonesty always presents them dishonestly. I have never said that I do not believe anything scientists have to say, you are lying when you claim that. I have said that I do not believe all scientists, that some scientist are corrupt, that some scientists are evil. I look to see their agenda and I know full well how big businesses use trained scientists present dishonest reports, i.e. Tobacco companies.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Monday, 18 August 2008

Susan, Henderson doesn't agree with those scientists that disagree with him. Its perfectly simple (...so is Henderson!)

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Monday, 18 August 2008

LOL Yeah Susan don't try to put Der Muppets views forward he has enough trouble doing that himself. It is all a conspiracy between Howard, Costello, Satin, George Bush and that bloke from Centre link that cut off Der Muppets pension. Their the ones that wrecked the environment/economy/Der Muppets life.

Posted by: Mark Sinclair, Maryland

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

Henderson "diverted" this topic to "Greenhouse Gases causing Global Warming". I responded to his diversion by referencing David Evans' work. Anyone interested in buying Henderson both spectacles AND a brain! Again Henderson "squirms"

Posted by: Geoffrey Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

GH, I asked the QUESTION of you, ARE YOU SAYING , because you seemed to want to ridicule Geoffs post. I would question your honesty GH if you wish to refer to me as dishonest. I am still waitng for you to quote me on the "racist" comments you say I have posted and the "names" you say I have called you. I asked you a question, regarding you comment on scientists. Obviously you are unable to answer without making a personal attack on my honesty. Your posts become irelevant the minute you attack.

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

We do have a disaster warning system-its name is RUDD. He has told us all about impending disaster and the thick skinned hypocrite is running expensive, tax payer funded advertisements, to go with his doom mongering. He had accused John Howard of wasting tax payer’s money with advertisements when he was in office.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

Rudd seems to be going on alot of trips too, just hope the plane he is on has all its nuts and bolts. and warning systems working

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Monday, 18 August 2008

I think he is off setting all his carbon emissions by fertilsing a lot of dopes. Henderson being top of the list.

Posted by: Mark Sinclair, Maryland

Monday, 18 August 2008

Tis a very scary thing to hear those alarms whilst so far up !!Even when u can see the ground, it's too far up! I dont wish that on anyone. Whilst logging is going on we need to replace at 2x removal rate. Farmers need to stop TORDONING land for questionable purposes. farms not in use should be retreed.We need the Amazon area and Nui Gini/Indonesia/malaya, to stop logging like they are too. Stop dumping Sewrage into Oceans,Toxics into oceans.Re-burn Coal Emissions, Lotas we can do

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

The point I made in my first post is that their is no need for a disaster warning system because it would be ignored by those who think only of lining their own pockets. While the Grredisgoodites can exploit the Earth without regard to the consequences nothing can be done. Only bu introducing laws that threaten their profits can we hope for change. The Shareholders hide behind the protection of Limited Liability to avoid having to pay to clean up the messes they make in their greed.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Monday, 18 August 2008

I wonder if Henderson has superannuation? I hope that his shares do not grow in value! Heaven forbid! Perhaps he's all theory (ideology) and no reality. Or maybe just full of bullsh*t!

Posted by: gareth benson, blacktown

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

I never thought I would say this because I try to refrain from speaking ill of others...But I think ive finaly found a solution for carbon dioxide storage that will save Australia.Pump it into one of Henderson's ears and block the other one up.That may finaly give him some substance...sorry Graeme ,but for some strange reason that I cannot comprehend,I actually do enjoy reading your point of view but only Alla knows why..cheers mate.

Posted by: Pierce B, Vic

 

Monday, 18 August 2008

No problem Pierce, They actually sent a team in to measure the available space about 5 months ago but there has been no sign of the team, or their helicopter since. And don't worry Allah doesn't understand you either. All the best.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Tuesday, 19 August 2008

Lmao Graeme,good answer.

Posted by: Pierce B, Vic

 
 

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