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Tuesday, 02 December 2008

Coalition leadership under pressure

7/09/2008 9:45:00 AM.  | Kelly Fedor
Brendan Nelson’s leadership of the Federal Coalition has taken a massive hit with a by-election loss in Lyne and a narrow win in Mauo.

Independent Rob Oakeshott appears to have blitzed the National Party held seat of Lyne with 74 per cent of votes two party-preferred.

While Liberal Jamie Briggs has been pushed over the line in the previously blue-ribbon seat of Mayo, left vacant by Alexander Downer.

Liberal MP Joe Hockey has told Channel Ten it’s a good result considering the circumstances.

“What we saw in Mayo, overnight, was the impact of having eight candidates preference against the Libs.”

“You even had the Greens giving preferences to One Nation ahead of the Liberal party,” he said.

“There was never going to be a chance that we were going to retain our margin in Mayo.”

Meanwhile, the West Australian election is still up the air with Labor appearing unlikely to be able to gain more than 27 seats.

The Liberals are likely to take 25 and the Nationals four with two independents and another seat to be decided.

COMMENTS

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Kelly, I suggest that you declare your obvious "looney left" membership (or that of your sub-editor). On balance, who has suffered more in the past 48 hours Liberal or Labor? Me thinks Labor. And still you dig around for a leadership story about Nelson! In a seat where Rudd was gutless about standing a candidate, all the looney left vote with the Greens and ALL the other minor distractions (or "parties") give preferences to Labor. As a journalist Kelly, YOU are an absolute disgrace.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Sunday, 07 September 2008

What amazes me is how preferences determine the outcomes of seats. Perfect example of that was the Federal seat of Robertson with preferences getting Belinda Neal over the line, and we all know how well that has turned out. Another example of how preferences are a bad idea is how Labour did back room deals for years with the Greens to get there preferences prior to the last Federal election, and how Labour now has to follow through with their stupid environmental package because of those deals and promises with the Greens. Get rid of the preference voting sham I say.

Posted by: Phil A, Central Coast

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Phil, it was preferences that got Labor into government. Don't believe for one moment that ANYONE wants the Greens to ever run the country!

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Jeez Geoff Bolton chill out. The Labor party have been trashed for the past 48 hours on this site - and deservedly so as Iemma was deadwood - but get real. Dont have a dummy spit just because there is a story which highlights something else going on on the other side. Its a signifigant story and needs to be run. Is all you ever think about is the Labor party and politics? You must be a riot to hang out with. I bet you get laid heaps too.

Posted by: Brian Henderson, The Way It Is

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Should not the headline for this article be; Liberals lack of leadership under pressure. Even that extreme right fanatic Goof Bolton has said many times that Nelson was just a seat warmer, of course he has never managed to point out who exactly the seat was being kept warn form but then he doesn't ever seem to know much, he's a bit like half plus one nelson in that way.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Sunday, 07 September 2008

And even Henderson fails to acknowledge the absolute litany of Labor disasters over the past 48 hours. He still (with head deeply buried in the sand or up his a*se) rants on about leadershp and the liberals. Meanwhile middle Australia starts to take Labor to task for its lack of leadership, policy and direction (other than towards bankruptcy!). When Labor implodes its great to watch, just a pity we ever let them loose on the country!

Posted by: Bolts Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Crikey Geoff, you may be suffering a case of premature adjudication here mate. When Labour failed to win recent by-elections there were many articles discussing the negative implications, considering they had just booted the coalition resoundingly (and thrown the Rodent out neck and crop). Lots of coverage also of Labour's difficulties in recent days. Bit totalitarian champ. You're in for a rough few months if you arc up every time someone discusses the debacle that is Federal Liberal party.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Sunday, 07 September 2008

darren carrow-The point that Geoff is making is that the Media, for some reason known only to themselves, seem to be scrutinising the opposition more than it does the Government-who after all are running the Country and should be more accountable. Just look at this article it hones in on Brendan Nelson and then just as an after thought it mentions the WA election. We have had Gippsland, NT and now WA and all the Media want to talk about are the Liberal and CP by elections. Rudd has acknowledged that Gippsland and the NT were warnings to his Party. Any sensible person would expect a backlash in the seats where the sitting Member resigns without serving out the term.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill, exactly Geoff’s point. It seems from election to gov the media has left Labor off the leash. But this is nothing new, the media have dropped the ball on many things, but I still think Live News is still pretty good compared to say ABC losers.

Posted by: Bart R, Sydney

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

ALP vote was what? Zero!

Posted by: james stack,

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

“You even had the Greens giving preferences to One Nation ahead of the Liberal party,” he said. What a joke Labor/Greens hypocrits are...they would rather preference One Nation for the seat of Mayo, because even if we dont like it, the Greens are already in Govt with Labor.Without their preferences they cant win. Greens savaged One Nation, but now give them their preferences.The far left gives preferences to the far right.Preferences should be scrapped.Those voting Green are fooling themselves.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Bloto Bolton, either get off the booze or have a drink. I am not particularly interested in WA Politics, Haven't been since I left there in 91. But having been on the roof of their parliament I can tell you that their coat of arms up there is just a fiberglass facade on a steel frame. And it was to protest against a Labor gov that put me there. The will have fixed up their security a bit since then though. I am anti Howard and his supporters, like Nelson Costello and you, not pro Labor.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Desmond, go to google news search and check out the coverage. Here are a couplle of samples which should cheer you and Geoff up: 'Nelson diamond under pressure' & 'Bishop says Rudd influenced WA result'. There has been no imbalance in the journalism here. I am saying that Geoff has made a premature attack apparently based on just not wanting to see any story crticising his beloved coalition. Contra his mantra of 'look at all of the evidence, not just that which supports you' etc.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Sunday, 07 September 2008

darren carrow-You have got to be joking about Media Bias I am sure. You mentioned a couple of items without giving the source. Live news is often criticised for being right wing and here you are-obviously a left supporter-defending them. I don't think that you would find many people defending the ABC and the Fairfax Media from accusations of left wing bias. Several Murdoch Papers even endorsed Rudd at the last election without giving a valid reason. Any way you haven't addressed the fact that Labor should be subject to a lot more scrutiny than the opposition.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Harris, you are that far to the right you think Hitler was a communist. I have no problem defending the ABC and Fairfax from being left wing. Anyone who thinks this site is left wing is certifiable. I recall Rupert Murdoch having some pretty good reasons for not supporting Howard. I mean we can point to Howard's obvious dishonesty. His attitude to the Iraq invasion, his attitude to Climate Change, his treatment of refugees, were you not paying attention? Or is it your blind spot?

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Henderson-You are definitely Naziphobic-pay a visit to your shrink-go on that’s a good chap.. The next thing that you will be telling us is that ABC people like Kerry O’Brien, Barry Cassidy and Maxine McWho (ex) were all part of the John Howard Fan Club. And the people at Fairfax-lets see Michael Carlton and Alan Ramsey-to name a few were to the right of Genghis Khan. On Iraq you are like a broken record. Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Rudd was more convinced than John Howard that Sadam had WMDs and was happy to invade. Any way what’s the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan-Rudd is quite happy with our troops being in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

There are lessons for both sides.Firstly in WA the Liberals were nowhere until they changed leaders.Labour abused its position by going far too early to an election.WA is notionally a Liberal state and realistically returning to the fold.The by-election result in Mayo is irrelevant.Hate to agree with Harris but his comments on retiring sitting members is correct.Bolts you have to be the slowest Liberal i have seen.Leadership is crucial to an effective opposition thats why Nelson is under fire.

Posted by: Lance Freestone, Cambridge Park

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Lance Freestone-Why is WA is a notional Liberal. I thought that we now live in an enlightened age where 'swinging voters' decide outcomes. Swing voters, we are told are not traditional voters but use their higher intellect to vote for policies rather than Parties.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Darren, i am enjoying your posts. I must say these lovely liberal supports are a bit one eyed and seemed to forget why howard got voted out in the first place. oops. oh i forgot they think he did nothing wrong, silly me. then we have the current government oh they arent perfect either. the state governments are a seperate issue to the federal one. there is that simple enough.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Belinda Hummie-Its not just that the current Government is not perfect but that they are a lot worse than the one that they replaced. When people don't learn from history it tends to repeat itself. Federal (Whitlam and Hawke /Keating) and State (Cain/Kirner and Carr/Iemma) Labor Governments ruin economies and the Liberals are then called in to fix the mess-and they perform every time. State politics is important in National Politics especially now that Rudd has committed to spend Federal funds propping up his incompetent State Labor mates.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Des, Geoff went off half cocked about one one article amongst thousands. I referred to articles dissing Labor. Go and find them for yourself. I presume you would not be satisfied with anything less than a disclaimer on each and every story published: 'the publishers acknowledge that the criticism levelled at [blank] in this article is insignificant in comparison to the misdeeds of the Labor party'. Deafening silence from Geoff about his totalitarianism and thin skin.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Carrow, I've been working. Something you probably know nothing about. I run my own business. Probably something else you know nothing about. I employ people - how many do you employ? Get a life you fool.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

desmond you still are pointing the finger one way. i was not. get the point. obviously not.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Sunday, 07 September 2008

Belinda Hummie- The only way that you were pointing was LEFT.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

ah, Geoff, put your feet up, grab a refreshing beverage. Now how about your justification for your attack on the journo that dared to write this story. I think she deserves an apology. Having a go at someone just for doing the job they are employed to do just seems a tad unfair. Wanting to muzzle the press looks a touch inconsistent with (small l) liberal principles.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

and my sincere sympathy to each and every one of your employees

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

 

Sunday, 07 September 2008

This article is a beat up. In fact, the media have built a fire to consume Dr Nelson. Dr Nelson has done nothing wrong, but you wouldn't know it by the reporting. There are good reasons as to the by election result which don't reflect on Dr Nelson's leadership and aren't explored.

Posted by: Happy Fun Ball, Carramar/Sydney

 
 

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