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Tuesday, 02 December 2008

Rudd launches last ditch effort to save Murray-Darling

14/08/2008 7:38:00 PM.  | 
The federal government has dramatically stepped up efforts to save the dying lakes at the mouth of Australia's biggest river system, agreeing to buy up water-hoarding properties and send the water downstream.

Federal cabinet today agreed to a suite of new measures in a last-gasp bid to save the Murray Darling's lower lakes from turning into acid or being flooded with seawater.

The government would try to buy out "appropriately located irrigation properties", Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said as he announced the new package in Adelaide.

The government will also try to buy out the water rights of entire irrigation communities in the drought ravaged basin.

It has fast-tracked spending on buying back water rights.

And it will commission an independent audit of the basin's water storages to make sure the numbers are correct.

But the cabinet, which met today in Adelaide, has conceded that the new measures might not be enough to save the lower lakes.

Cabinet has decided that if experts say it is necessary to flood the lower lakes with seawater, the government will consider the option.

The Murray-Darling stretches through Queensland, NSW and Victoria before coming out at South Australia's lower lakes.

The basin is so dry that the lower lakes, which are freshwater, are turning acidic.

There are two ways to save them: sending more freshwater downstream, or letting in the seawater, which would significantly change the lakes' ecology.

Mr Rudd said he was trying to save the lower lakes, but warned it might not be possible.

"I don't want to say there is a magic solution here ... I am not going to provide false promises, I am not going to provide false guarantees about there being some simple solution," he said.

"I am trying to turn around a situation which has evolved over many, many years ... and we are dealing with the real consequences of climate change."

Today's announcements signal a change in direction by the federal government.

It had previously focused on a $3.1 billion buyback of individual irrigators' water rights.

Water Minister Penny Wong recently said there was not enough water in upstream water storages to save the lower lakes.

But now the government will try to buy properties outright - particularly in the northern reaches of the basin - and also buy out the rights of entire irrigation communities.

It has picked up the pace of water buybacks, and caved in to demands for verification of the Murray Darling Basin Commission's numbers on water storages.

"There's been some challenge to the accuracy of the Murray-Darling Commission numbers," Mr Rudd said.

"We will commission one of the independent accounting houses of the world to separately and independently audit the accuracy of the Murray-Darling Basin Commission's numbers."

Greens water spokeswoman Rachel Siewert said today's changes were missing one vital reform: the government should consider compulsorily buying out irrigators' water rights and allocations.

Senator Siewert said the focus should be on buying water that actually exists, as opposed to water rights which are buying zero allocations in dry times.

Coalition water spokesman John Cobb said today's measures would not alleviate the crisis, and instead would decimate struggling communities.

Mr Cobb said the water buybacks would take too long to finalise, plus it would take a lot more water than the government could buy to restore decent flows.

COMMENTS

Thursday, 14 August 2008

Finally, not all talk, and some action.

Posted by: J Glover, Cromer

 

Thursday, 14 August 2008

Te problem with releasing water from Queensland now is that most of it will never make it to the mouth, absorbtion, filling waterholes and Billabongs and evaporation will remove most of it. Water needs to be let go when it's raining at the minimum and when it's flooding preferably. Water should have been let go in the floods earlier this year. Irrigators should be prevented from drawing or capturing water until after a flood has passed, floods need be be allowed to reach the sea.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Thursday, 14 August 2008

Action? What action? Do you mean the next report from an acountancy commission is action? All that is, is KRUDD throwing money to some organisation to recount numbers already obtained. Now, when they get all this water bought up, what is going to happen to it? Who is going to be the controlling body for water in the near future? Who will set allocations of this water and for whom? If normal GOVT practice is a guide, we will end up buying our water from some foriegn Nationals.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

 

Thursday, 14 August 2008

Try peeing in it, it carries more substance

Posted by: Bart R, Sydney

 

Thursday, 14 August 2008

Rudd says, "I am not going to provide false promises" but isn't that precisely what he did during the election? Interesting how things change once you get into power. Seems that Garrett was correct when he spoke to Steve Price.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

What we see here is the more attempts by Bolton and the lesser radical right wing mugs trying to blame the new government for something that is the result of the the Environmental Policies of the old Howard - Costello Government. It's a bit rich to expect the river to be saved now when those of us who care about these matters have been calling for action for over a decade. It could have been saved, even within the last three years there have been floods that should have been left to flow.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 15 August 2008

Graeme, me thinks the Issue lies more with BOTH govts. Over a longer period of time than Howard/Rudd. Add the fact that we seem to have Govts made up of Lawyers and Accountants, mean the people given the Portfolios know nothing of what it is they're trying to run. Agriculture/environment is beyond the Average punter, let alone a pollie whos never spent time in the Game. Fix this, most of the issues needing fixing in this area will be.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

Friday, 15 August 2008

If Henderson was to actually READ the entry he would see that his interpretation is wildly wrong. Read again you silly old fossil. I am saying that Rudd has conciously changed from the pre-election mantra of false promises to the post election - no promises. This is deliberate Rudd media spin management in the hopes that people forget about the pre-election promises. Finally, inaction on the Murray-Darling pre-dates Howard. It should be apolitical.

Posted by: Geoff (Timmy doesn't understand me!) Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Bolt Tim understands you perfectly toy idiot Bolton. Inaction on the MDB does predate Howard, but Howard had plenty of time and the opportunity to save it. Now at the last second to midnight you Lib groupies demand miracles. As with the economy, the situation was worse than we were led to believe by the Howard-Costello Government. Howard's policy was to cross his fingers and hope that it would rain. Apolitical, that's funny coming from you, stop being a hypocrite.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 15 August 2008

....and Henderson speaks for Timmy as well as for the rest of the country. Aren't we all soooooo lucky! Henderson, juts say that Howard AND HIS PREDECESSORS had plenty of opportunity and you'd win me (and many others) over. But you can't you silly old fart, because you are so paranoid

Posted by: Geoff (apolitical) Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Geoff Tim understands you perfectly idiot Bolton. (Don't know what happened last time.) I am not speaking for the good Mr Brunero at all, I was simply pointing to the accuracy of his assessment of you and thereby shining a light on your discomfort of him having nailed you so well in his article. He really got to you. There is no need to look back past the Howard - Costello government in regards to the MDB, they were the last gov that had the opportunity to save it. What's up with Qantarse BTW?

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Muppet you are becoming more and more funny every day. You have an amazing ability to tie any event with current or 50 years in the past to the Howard government. Next you will be telling us that Howard had a time machine and actually started the last world war or his policy on climate change started the last ice age. Bolt is 100% correct you are a silly old fart with nothing better to do than whinge in your government funded old age.

Posted by: Mark Sinclair, Maryland

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Thank Labor and Bracks (conveniently resigned) for the delays in tackling the Murray Darling issues.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Oh come on desperate Harris, you are not a professional spin doctor obviously, you are hopeless at it. Had Howard wanted to save the MDB he could have done so, you can't blame the Mexicans for this. Howard only became interested in even pretending to give a damn about the environment at all when he started to realise that no-one was going to believe another Kids Overboard lie and when the crisis was getting that bad even the Hillbillies in the Nats couldn't water their lawns.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 15 August 2008

Graeme Henderson-True to form your ideology and your pathological hatred for the great man-John Winston Howard (stand in awe) has blinded you from the facts. You seem to think that if you deny the truth that it will go away - No Hendo it doesn't work like that.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

I don't know where you lot have had your collective heads shoved. Up until a year ago, water was in the hands of the State Governments, had nothing to do with Federal. It was the Qld. Government the handed out licences to the rice growers and the cotton growers in south west Qld. 2 crops that are hardly sustainable in the dryest continent in the world........Rudd was in the Qld. Government wasn't he..????

Posted by: keith rowland, tweed heads

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Keith, 1, this is not the driest continent in the world. 2. The states should have been pulled into line on water much earlier, Howard only started when he needed a vote buyer, the thing is, and everyone knew this, he should have begun that process much earlier. The Queensland Labor Government is the pits where the environment is concerned. Howard thou did too little too late and now his biased supporters are blaming the new Federal Labor Government, Abolish the states, make it all Queensland.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 15 August 2008

Actually Graeme, Australia IS the driest inhabited continent in the world (excluding Antarctica). Egypt is the driest country though. As for the rest, I think all of Australia, fed and state and most people need to take responsibility for the environment we are ruining - we all need to step up and change the way we live. Why don't we have compulsory tanks & reticulation systems for all new residences, why aren't we demanding that all commercial buildings are self sustainable etc...

Posted by: Concerned Liberal, Minto

Friday, 15 August 2008

Yep CL, you got it in one with the except for Antarctica bit. I agree that it is the responsibility of everyone, but the fact is the States are all self serving. Howard knew this and eventually started to do something about it but way too late. That attitude of the Victorians sucked but then Howard was a dictator, not much good at negotiating. Finally, if these people will stop trying to blame Rudd for this we can get some clarity, Bob Carr and Beatie yes Howard and Bracks yes, Rudd no, Wong, no

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Des an Keiith thank you for your factual posts. I am a mexican, and Des, your right, Bracks did delay . Keith you also are right, it has been in state Govt's hands and it was Qlds Labor state Govt that handed out the licenses for rice and cotton growers. Some are unable ot accept that state Govt's have controlled many things , and delayed many, such as Bracks. Lets just blame Howard for all the countries problems, forget FACT, hell who cares, Hendo says it is true, it must be. Sheeeeesh !!

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

GH, I don't know where you get your information from, but if I may clarify my earlier statement, Australia is the driest INHABITED continent, I wouldn't have thought that a bit of deadwood like yourself would even contemplate growing rice or cotton in the antarctic, although if the Qld. Government could get the water rights I bet they would try sellingt it...

Posted by: keith rowland, tweed heads

Friday, 15 August 2008

fr, I don't know where you get your errors from, but my facts come from taking a real interest in the world. It would however be a good idea to send the rice and cotton farmers and agri businesses to Antarctica because it would stop them destroying Australia. Good riddance to them I say. Now then, if Howard couldn't do anything about the MDB, why did he start to do something, sure he messed it up, kinda like the economy and the climate and the Gulf War, but he finally realised that he should act

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Slowe, reality check. You lot, the rad right, are quite happy to put the blame onto Federal Labor, but you then deny that Howard the liar had any responsibility? Why, if it was nothing to do with Howard, did he start working on it at the 11th hour and 59th minute?

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 15 August 2008

Actualy Graeme, I think you will find that Turnbull and a few of his mates started the whole Save the Murray debate. Also if memory serves, He and his group of Bussiness friends even started the bankrolling of the Enviro studies, created a think tank for the issue. PS. OZ, IS the Driest old son....May have been a while old fella but surely you can cast ya mind back to some school days?( on the Turnbull thing, was on a 60 mins prog..roughly 3-4 yr back now)

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Again , ummm Hendo, READ my posts, I put the blame on all of them for many things. Where did I suggest it was FEDERAL Labor Govts fault. You obviously read posts as you wish to see them, are you sure you do not need reading glasses. You are so full of yourself that any one you deem to be challenging your knowledge has to be a part of the "rad right" or worse. Dont try and intimidate me into agreeing with all you say. Australia is the driest INHABITED continent on earth, wow, you got it wrong

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

GH, nowhere have I blamed Federal Labor, unless you are counting my jibe at Rudd when he was in Qld. Government. If that is the case, you truly do need reading glasses as susan has suggested. Being totally oneeyed you should pick them up for half price...

Posted by: keith rowland, tweed heads

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

Susan, I have never said that Australia was not the driest inhabited continent, merely that it is not the driest continent. Although one can hardly say that Antarctica is uninhabited these days, just sparsely inhabited. And you are right, it was your friends blaming Howard but not you, it's difficult, you all look alike. Keith said "the dryest continent in the world" by the way, which is certainly wrong. I left his spelling mistake in the quote too. The INHABITED bit was a later squirm.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Friday, 15 August 2008

GH, .."a later squirm".., doesn't quite get you out of the .."DOH" category. While my spelling might not be up to scratch, my knowledge of basic geography is greater than yours...

Posted by: keith rowland, tweed heads

 

Friday, 10 October 2008

If Henderson had the smarts to be able to re-read his first post and comprehend it with any lack of bias he may just absorb a little of his flaming the political blame whereas all that was said prior was about Krudd making promises pre election and now just promising no guarantees and if without bias he was also able to address the issue of water management, he may just appreciate that there has been more to it all than just setting up one management authority as initiated by Howard.

Posted by: Neville Simms, Sydney

 
 

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