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Saturday, 22 November 2008

Nursing homes 'too reliant on sedatives'

29/08/2008 9:04:00 AM.  | AAP
Nursing homes in Tasmania are relying too heavily on sedatives, sometimes to control patients, an expert says.

Pharmaceutical Society of Australia researcher Juanita Westbury said Tasmanian nursing homes currently had about three times the usage rate of benzodiazepines compared with nursing homes in Sydney.

Nursing home and pharmaceutical guidelines promoted minimising sedation in nursing homes as an ideal, but Ms Westbury said research had shown these medications were being used "to control residents".

"It's part of nursing home culture," she said.

"It's got to do with education and a lack of staffing and a lack of resources.

"We know if residents have more one-on-one attention we wouldn't need as many sedatives."

Ms Westbury said sedated patients fell more and also became mentally confused more often.

"It's better to manage them through reducing the use of tea and coffee and giving hot, milky drinks rather than giving sleeping tablets," she said.

"It's important to try other strategies rather than move straight on to medications that help people sleep and sedate them."

Ms Westbury, a PhD student at the University of Tasmania School of Pharmacy, said the Tasmanian homes recognised the problem and were working to fix it.

Her work was based on a 2003 study by one of Australia's foremost psychogeriatrics experts, Professor John Snowden, which helped reduce sedative use in Sydney nursing homes.

Ms Westbury, who replicated Prof Snowden's study in Tasmania, presented her 2007 Reducing Use of Sedatives report to Prof Snowden in Hobart on Thursday night.

COMMENTS

Friday, 29 August 2008

Case of ONE insatnce...My wife works this industry, NOT all are on Sleepers/sedatives. In the big bad Industry of Aged Care, It's not uncommon for the OLDIES to have a nip/toddie,Nightcap. Lets not forget the previous STUDIES done that say OLDIES require far less than the 8hr sleep as they nap during the days. The GUV doesnt wanto topay for staff at night so they Rely on the sleepers in SOME cases. Wanna fix it GUV, drop the cash into the system. Same as the Hospitals.Review $ could have been?

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

Friday, 29 August 2008

Your not seriously asking that the government put money into aged care are you? Thats almost as silly as asking them to put money into mental health facilities! That would mean taking care of our most weakest citizens, we don't do that in this country.

Posted by: Concerned Liberal, Minto

Friday, 29 August 2008

Hey CL, its almost funny isnt it. We can fund car companies for the sake of competitive pricing, green cars, Buy out famers water at 2x paid price. In fact we can even throw money to foriegn Govs to help them with all manner an issue but we cant get our HEALTH system going? We can spend on anything in this and other countries, but not fix Health issues.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

 

Friday, 29 August 2008

Nick Again:It is obvious you have no first hand knowledge of what really goes on behind the scenes. Nitecap my big foot!You are ill-informed(unfortuantely your wife has provided a bias view as you know if she speaks out she will lose her job and you know it).The old and aged are sedated (a relative of mine was and was removed from three establishments and abused and neglected).He is now at home receiving pallaitive care as he was left to die on his bed in June with pneumonia/highfever and failed to ring the ambulance where he was left gasping and gurgling for every breath - his lungs filled with fluid.When the relative arrived they had to call 000 to get him to hospital.This is only a snipet what has occurred since 2005.They sedate the old so they do not eat and slowly are starved to death.Those with illnesses deteriorate quicker as they become malnourished not because of their illness but through neglect, they forget how to eat and swallow their food as their body goes into shut down

Posted by: Dan Concerned, *

Friday, 29 August 2008

cont'd:I know first-hand what happens and if anyone wants to try and disprove it then do so.The elderly are looked upon as a burden even with the meagre amount they are paid.This is a way of getting rid of them.Once you enter a nursing home facility you are doomed (illegal euthansia does occur and if people are provided with information that their relatives will be looked after - dream on) it's about time people like yourself woke up about the facts and the media should be exposing this sham.Sure you have complaint departments but that's why they have them so those who complain are targetted.I could write a book on the scams that go on and it happens in hospitals also where doctors are involved in this.It's all about saving money and the elderly are a burden on society.

Posted by: Dan Concerned, *

 

Friday, 29 August 2008

Dan, I said the establishment WHERE my wife works. NOT all Places. By law, your rights in ANY home are MEANT to be PRIORITY to all else. Not ALL places may respect this, not ALL places are negligent. I personally have sold alcohol to a 92 yr old person from A Home In our town, whilst emloyed at a hotel close by. If your relative suffered from a neglectful Place, my condolences to you. Again DAN i say, " where my wife works" , NOT ALL are sedated. Some yes, Not ALL.

Posted by: Nick Again, maryborough

Friday, 29 August 2008

Nick Again:I respect what you have to say however this article is about sedatives given to the elderly in these so called nursing homes (nothing but concentration camps) and has nothing to do with drinking alcohol or the supply of same to those who wish to have a drink (this is allowable) - unfortunately you are completely off the track here.I don't really believe that the elderly drink themselves to a stupor in a facility or do you believe that one also unless they are have a drinking problem in the first place and should be monitored regardless.If you supplied a 92 yo did he drink himself to a stupor or did he just have a small quantity to relax just like any other person perhaps would if they like that sort of thing or are used to it or perhaps this was what they enjoyed at home.Why shouldn't they enjoy the same things they used to just because they end up in an "establishment".Maybe if they still have their faculties perhaps then they may have a chance those who are sick, immobile

Posted by: Dan Concerned, *

Friday, 29 August 2008

continued:immobile or their memory has gone they have no chance in any of them - they are neglected to ensure they don't survive. There is no problem the elderly having a drink if it is monitored as medication could cause side effects etc in the first instance something that they themselves may not be aware of.Where your wife works must be a haven-the majority of establishments do exactly what I said (I stand corrected as I mentioned 3 in fact there were 4 the person was removed from and I add that they are now living out the days they have at home because of the mistreatment.As mentioned I am able to back it up with facts and not fiction.It's a disgrace and we all should be ashamed how the elderly in this country are being treated.

Posted by: Dan Concerned, *

Friday, 29 August 2008

Dan, first you say I have no Idea, now I'm Off track? Try reading what I first wrote. Then try to keep your Vindictive attitude off my case. I have said the govt needs to put more cash into the Industry. Since when is a "nightcap" drinking to a stupor. The drink i sold was a bottle, which i assume was taken home. Your experience doesnt cover the WHOLE Industry. How is it you can used near 1000 characters here? Moderator are we, stiring the pot your job? Again mate read what i wrote.

Posted by: Nick Again, maryborough

Friday, 29 August 2008

One Instance, was my start line DAN. One Instance, i made the comment also that the govt needs to inject funds. I also made the comment of the persons rights.The persons right remains paramount. ( is meant to be anyway). My comment stands, where my wife is employed, the sedative issue is not a problem there. Now consider the report here is about TAS and Sydney, Not here where we live.I didnt comment about the Industry as a whole, ONE instance was my comment. Try reading whats written.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

Friday, 29 August 2008

NA:What I said I respect what you have to say! read that and by the way if you are not clever enough to figure out how you can beat 500 characters (by the way I'm not your mate) then you are obviously no way informed about the current subject either.I'm aware what you wrote and drinking and being sedated by drugs is completely opposite to what the story is all about the reason why I brought this to your attention-stick to the subject and basically I'm not on your case but you need to stay on track.I think I'm just over the 500 character mark right now and I'm not the only person clever enough to work it out as to how it can be achieved and without the assistance of the moderator or livenews!

Posted by: Dan Concerned, *

 

Friday, 29 August 2008

We spend more on prisoners than we do on Aged care. Many are mistreated and in some cases are not even afforded decent meals.Aged care needs more funding all over Australia, but hey, isnt going to happen..aged pensioners are still waiting on a small raise in order to eat half way decently at home...We should be ashamed of the way we treat our elderly...maybe it will change in the next few years, they will be the majority...I know when im 80, if i want a toddy, Ill have one.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

 

Saturday, 30 August 2008

Dan your stories while they may be correct are very short sighted. and are not in the majority. the story is talking about tassie nursing homes compared to sydney ones. Sedation is being used because there is a higher number of clients with dementia. at night staff number to client ratios are down due to cost cutting. AIN's who do most of the work are generally on very little some as little as $12 an hr. I worked in a 60 bed place, at night we had one RN/EN and one AIN. imagine if all were awake

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Saturday, 30 August 2008

con't. I do not condone the giving of sedatives. I really think they need to have a better staff client ratio. especially at night. it always worried me that if there were a fire at night, i would have to get them all out. The staff would never neglect a patient, but we were always pushed to our limits. you need to go to ACF or today tonight dan if what you say is true, get it heard. i dont know where you live, so cannot say if i have heard about it. 85% of their pension goes to the nursing home

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Saturday, 30 August 2008

cont. most nursing homes look after their elderly well. susan, you cannot say that many are mistreated, it is not something you can back up, where is the proof? go get me 20 nursing homes shut down if this is the case. the food is of a good standard in the homes, the elderly always seemed to enjoy it at the homes i worked at. Also they used to have a toddy, or a beer. oh and one lady even had a chocie lol. Aged care needs to be addressed, it needs FUNDING NOW

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Friday, 26 September 2008

i am looking for jobs if there is nay vacancy please call me to join with us.

Posted by: Sunita Ghimire, ashfield,nsw

 
 

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