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Saturday, 10 January 2009

More indigenous kids removed in NSW than Stolen Generation

24/11/2008 6:45:00 AM.  | Melanie Tait & AAP
Aboriginal children are being taken away from their parents at a higher rate than during the stolen generation.

In 1969 a thousand indigenous children across New South Wales were in the care of foster parents, institutions and missions - making up part of the stolen generation.

Today, 4,000 aboriginal children are in state care, an increase of 37 percent in the last year alone.

Half of the children are just streets away, in the care of their grandparents.

Child advocates have described the figures as very worrying, and would like to see the numbers of children leaving their parents decrease.

The statistics were "very, very worrying", chairwoman of the Aboriginal Child, Family and Community Care State Secretariat, Amanda Bridge, said.

"It's more than were taken in the Stolen Generation," she said.

"It's alarming, and as a practice it's wildly different to what we'd like to see, which is the numbers coming down."

COMMENTS

Monday, 24 November 2008

Putting aside the terrible suffering unwanted children can endure, their cost to society can be massive. The State should buy the reproductive capacity of the disadvantaged. I'd imagine the social costs of an unwanted child could run into hundreds of thousands of dollars (alcohol and other drug dependency services, prison services, crime). It would be a win-win situation.

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

Monday, 24 November 2008

Soem people on here have accsed me of drawing a long bow when laying the blame for the increase of racism, division and social exclusion on the Rodent. I am so glad that you Paul, the most rabid of racist, are illustarting the connection for me. Now you've tipped right over the edge into a call for an implementation of eugenics, an idea which Hitler was enamoured with. I'm sure both Hitler and the Rodent would have agreed with you thet there is 'life unworthy of life' Paul.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

and Derwent carrot you are one that should have been knocked on the head at birth.Like a broken record that should be just thrown on the rubbish tip where you belong

Posted by: D K, Brisbane

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

Darren, stopping a birth isn't hurting anyone. Indeed probably the opposite. Despite all the warm and fuzzy policies of the Left toward the disadvantaged, children are still being subjected to unconscionable abuse. I'd imagine some disadvantaged people take more care of their plasma TVs than they do of their kids. Prevention is better than cure. Better to prevent the conditions likely to lend to cruelty than try and attend to the cruelty once it's surfaced, by which time the child could be dead.

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

Monday, 24 November 2008

A few questions for you Paul, which I challenge you to answer, and reveal in full your commitment towards eugenics and hence Nazism: 1) who will decide which adults will be forcibly sterilised? 2) upon what crtieria (economic, educational, racial, or perhaps cultural)? 3) is it a mere coincidence that this call for fiorced sterilisations from you was posted ona story about indigenous children being taken away from their parents?

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

Darren, darren, darren. You lefties see monsters in everyone but yourselves. People who really want a child would not put a price on it. These are the parents we want. The Federal Government should offer $50,000 for a vasectomy/tubal ligation to fertile people who have not reproduced. Think about it. $50,000 would buy a lot of drugs which would be a better outcome for some potential children and society than if those people had children.Can't you see that?

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

Monday, 24 November 2008

Answer the questions....

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Monday, 24 November 2008

Paul, you must do as Sparrow demands. Sparrow is the self appointed moderator of everything that is good (and anti coalition) on the site. Quite remarkably, Live News let him get away with his "demands".

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Monday, 24 November 2008

Paul, I recall many years ago India tried that, they only a gave a small transister radio to men to have a vasectomy; I think they may have run out of small transister radion.

Posted by: Rob Banks, Canberra

Monday, 24 November 2008

Live News....."thank you"

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

I have a theory?. Perhaps, if people were given to work, they'd have better things to do than sit in misery and Drink away pity. We would be better doing something like using all available to Build Roads and Rail infrastructure around and across the country. There are many things they could be doing instead of wasting and angering. Their communities and others . This kind of thing gives heart, reason to live and the people willl thrive for it. Babies will be in their home for life in happy homes

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

Perhaps Charities (Oxfam etc) should adopt a new approach with fund raising. In addition to asking for $25 to keep a child in school for a year etc, they could solicit funds for vasectomies/tubal ligations? Knowing I had helped reduce the World's exploding population would give me the same warm inner glow darren gets when he cycles to work.

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

"Hell is other people" said Mr Sartre. Think about it darren. What causes most of the problems in our lives? It ain't wild animals or natural calamities, it's ... other people. Look at how other people can mess up your life in a civilised society operating under the rule of law. Experts are warning that "other people" will be an even bigger threat in the next 20 years (e.g climate refugees)and ... they won't be very civilised. We need to start the process of reducing the world's numbers.

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

Monday, 24 November 2008

Three posts without avan a shadow of an answer. Do your bush-lawyer skills stretch as far as interpreting vini vidi vici? Keep on talkign up genocide under the JWH banner (which I note people have flocked to in droves Ha ha!) as it coninues to make my point beautifully.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

I didn't think you were serious, darren, but here you are: 1) who will decide which adults will be forcibly sterilised? [NO ONE IS PROPOSING THAT]2) upon what crtieria (economic, educational, racial, or perhaps cultural)? 3) [SEE FIRST ANSWER]is it a mere coincidence that this call for fiorced [WHAT!] sterilisations from you was posted ona story about indigenous children being taken away from their parents? [MY POST IS RELEVANT TO THE DISADVANTAGED. INDIGENES ARE OVER-REP IN DISADVANTAGED.

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

Monday, 24 November 2008

See, that wasn't so hard was it Paul? Now, if you say that you did not propose to forcibly sterilise anyone, then what possible methd would you use to 'but the reproductive capacity' of designated individuals? If you are able to provide an answer to that, which I doubt, then the second question arises again: what criteria would you use to identify the individuals? Of course, if it is all to hard for you to justify your opinions, you can call 'uncle' any time.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

Money, darren. The Government should use money to try and encourage people in at-risk cohorts not to have children. Currently the Government uses money to encourage people to have children (baby bonus etc). Conversely it could make payments to encourage certain people not to have children.

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

Monday, 24 November 2008

You're doign well Paul, but this is the difficult bit - there are two sides to any contractual arrangement, so what can the government do to ensure that it is really 'buying the reproductive capacit' of individuals with the $50K you propose? What promise could it extract in retun for such consideration? Please let me know if there is a solution to this problem which stops short of some form of forcible sterilisation.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Monday, 24 November 2008

Paul, hello Paul Neri? C'mon champ, have a stab at the hard question. I notice there is nothing in the mebership of your party of one about integrity, or intellect. Moral cowardice appears to be a requirement though, in keeping with the namesake.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Tuesday, 25 November 2008

Paul.... hello Paul? As I suspected, just another racist loudmouth without the skill of courage to defend their genocidal opinions. Oh well.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

"THE Wood report into child welfare has identified the huge number of Aboriginal children in foster care as one of the chief problems of the overloaded system.". What measures would you propose, darren? And if you say "more services", I'll throw something at you!

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

 

Monday, 24 November 2008

Darren the JWH Party is an inclusive (cyber) political party. Prerequisites for membership are: (i) Australian Citizenship; (ii) No Serious Criminal Convictions; (iii) Patriot. Benefits are the use of the acronym JWH in posts. You have nothing to lose by joining up and everything to gain - folk will know you're a good Australian, just like JWH. Darren Carrow (JWH Party). Yeah, sounds good!

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

 

Tuesday, 25 November 2008

Disappointed in you darren. Personal abuse doesn't advance anyone's knowledge which is what this forum is all about. No doubt you watched JWH on TV last night and relived some of the most exciting moments in this nation's history. Australia has lost its moral compass. We are at sea with Captain Kev and his motley crew who take their bearings from fashionable scuttlebutt aired in the swank bars adjoining the United Nations. Our great nation is listing to the left and entering unchartered waters.

Posted by: Paul Neri (JWH Party), Australia

 

Tuesday, 25 November 2008

Re the argument with steralising bad parents - they tried this in the US. There are a few organisations that between $200 & $1000 to drug addicts in return for sterilisations. There is no doubt that it is successful, less kids in bad situations, but there is strong opposition to it, the main one being that it is a form of coercion. Although the people choose to proceed, its not much of a choice for an addict who will do ANYTHING for a fix.

Posted by: Concerned Liberal, Minto

 

Tuesday, 25 November 2008

As for this issue - it disgusts me that these comments were made. The Stolen generation had NOTHING to do with abused kids - they were kids taken specifically so they breed out their "aboriginality". Any kids that is abused now or then, black or white - I don't care - remove them immediately! The fact that half these kids are with their GRANDPARENTS tells me its a completley different situation to the Stolen Generation.

Posted by: Concerned Liberal, Minto

 
 

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